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Katerina Nedelcu's avatar

Veronika, what an incredible post—thank you for addressing this topic in such a detailed and thoughtful way. I also have a draft on shame, but I paused writing it because of the mixed feelings that surfaced while working on it. Your post has been very helpful for me. I’m sorry to hear about your kindergarten experience at such a young age—shaming like that tends to stick with us and resurface in unpredictable ways.

In my case, I’ve experienced shame for as long as I can remember—a persistent feeling of inadequacy. For me, shame has always been tied to not belonging, feeling like an outsider, or being different. I began to understand this more deeply when I started forming meaningful connections. As Brené Brown says, “If we can share our story with someone who responds with empathy and understanding, shame can’t survive.”

Thank you again for your dedication. Your work is not only valuable but also incredibly insightful and well-structured. I admire you, send you energy to keep writing and sharing your gift!

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Philip Harris's avatar

Very valuable writing Veronica, thank you and many thanks everybody for all the comments.

Our society, the plurality of histories and cultural legacies usually requiring heavily modified behaviours has become increasingly located in ever larger mass environments that generate criminality and exploitive perversities, including traumatised personalities taking it out on others, and all the rest. A glance back to various histories over thousands of years gives us an idea of the range. The anthropologist and scholar the late David Graeber's great volume - and those terrific footnotes - ‘Debt, The First 5000 years’, is one such useful sketch. I can only dip in from time to time.

I have recently tentatively come up with a term 'ur-humanity', when trying to follow the gifted others, past and present trying for insight, even remedy. This in my view is an historical and societal search (see Graeber on understanding the present). We are lucky in my view as individuals if we find ourselves somewhere within a protected 'human family' heritage. The way we experience and ‘see others', the creatures, the web of relations and the relationship with a self-repairing core of our being seems important. For example, looking back, even in terms of our biology people have been expected often enough to manage with prescribed behaviours that if applied to say farm or zoo animals would result in breeding failures, mental health problems and sociopathic behaviour. My guess is that collectively we still do not know what 'we' are doing? Our schooling systems still too often can breed sociopathic behaviour.

It is possible that this expanded industrial civilisation has the lifespan and resources left to work out what works for creatures and our biological selves and the repair mechanisms of the mind and consciousness we are semi-autonomous parts of. Start with dance, song, musicality and story and poetry? Assume love and grace works? It would be something to save for the future.

Shame has a part. As a child I borrowed the air-rifle and first shot hit a sparrow on a chimney pot. That was it. It was not possible after that. I have had to kill animals at times and I value the needs of aboriginal communities, but there is a need for deep knowledge and a wide boundary, a context, to our attention?

Well on in adulthood I was shamed by a youngish child when I was making disparaging 'humorous' comment about an older relative. That was it.

We all blush, even blench, at recalled regrets, even relive trauma suffered from others or events, but it is possible to pilgrimage the 'Vale of Forgetting' leaving baggage not needed on the pilgrimage.

Nods head! Amen. 😊👍

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